From phma@webjockey.net Sat Dec 21 19:02:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 22 Dec 2002 03:02:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 56501 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2002 03:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Dec 2002 03:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2002 03:02:22 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1A8F43C478; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:02:20 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Forms of y-less brivla Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:02:11 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0212212202110N.17068@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 Here is a proposed way to enumerate the set of y-less brivla and divide them into lujvo, gismu, and fu'ivla. (There are no lujvo based on rafsi fu'ivla in this set; all such words have 'y' in them.) 1. List all lerpoi that have at least two syllables, end in a vowel, have at least one consonant cluster in the first five letters not counting apostrophes, begin with a valid initial cluster no longer than three consonants or with a vowel, have no apostrophes that are not adjacent to two vowels, and have no invalid consonant clusters. These are the possible y-less brivla. If an invalid diphthong is in the lerpoi, assume a comma; thus {spou} is in this set, but {spai} isn't. If they have fewer than five letters and have a valid consonant cluster (or valid initial, if it is initial), count them in. 2. Enumerate all gismu and lujvo (including meaningless ones such as {xoxmau}) ignoring the tosmabru rule. Ignore all lujvo that contain 'y'. 3. For all possible y-less brivla S that begin with consonant clusters, consider S, CVS, VS, CVVS, VVS, and VVVS, where apostrophes may be present between V's. a. If CVS and S are both lujvo, mark CVS as invalid by the tosmabru rule. b. If CVS is a lujvo and S is not, mark S as invalid by the slinku'i rule. c. If S is valid, mark CVS, VS, CVVS, VVS, and VVVS as invalid. 4. All remaining valid lerpoi, and no others, are actual y-less brivla. All those not marked as gismu or lujvo are fu'ivla. phma