From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Dec 26 11:58:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 26 Dec 2002 19:58:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 14544 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2002 19:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2002 19:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2002 19:58:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Re9F-000474-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:58:29 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Re8b-00046j-00; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:57:49 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from supernova.dimensional.com ([206.124.0.11]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Re8V-00046Y-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:57:43 -0800 Received: from p43.3c07.pm.dimcom.net (p43.3c07.pm.dimcom.net [206.124.5.107]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gBQJvar19076 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:57:37 -0700 (MST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] broda bu instead of by? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:01:11 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 3638 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: thanatos@dim.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: EWC From: EWC Reply-To: thanatos@dim.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Any thoughts on using "broda bu" rather than "by" to refer back to a previous sumti? It's obviously not shorter in syllables, but it seems to me to be clearer in meaning and not have the variable binding issues (I think) of repeating the sumti verbatim. Also, it would let you reference multiple "by" sumti without needing forethought assignment or subscripting. So is "broda bu boi brode bu brodi" neat and useful, or just despicable Lojban? -- EWC