From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 27 13:17:51 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 27 Dec 2002 21:17:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 53166 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2002 21:17:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2002 21:17:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2002 21:17:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18S1ra-0003qy-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:17:50 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18S1rR-0003qe-00; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:17:41 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ispwest.com ([216.52.245.18] helo=ispwestemail1.aceweb.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18S1rK-0003qV-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:17:34 -0800 Received: from surreality.us (unverified [24.52.250.44]) by ispwestemail1.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with SMTP id ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:16:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:17:35 -0800 To: geofiction@yahoogroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [geofiction] Re: Felichan Kristnaskon! Message-Id: <20021227131735.4813a2d3.rizen@surreality.us> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.FEd0w6un2pVH?/" X-archive-position: 3641 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rizen@surreality.us Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Theodore Reed From: Theodore Reed Reply-To: rizen@surreality.us X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --=.FEd0w6un2pVH?/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:39:47 -0000 "Viktoro " wrote: > --- In geofiction@yahoogroups.com, "hotmyol " > wrote: > > > Lojban (lojban.org): gleki kraist donri (Lit. Happy Christ Day) > > Thanks for the Lojban translation. I was wondering what it was! > But doesn't that parse to ((Happy Christ) Day), not (Happy (Christ > Day))? Therefore, shouldn't it be soumething like: > > gleki donri pe kraist (Happy Day of Christ) Really, I think these are all pretty bad literal translations. (Not to mention that you can't use pe like that.) What is meant by "Merry Christmas"? "Be merry about the day of christ's birth." ko gleki le djedi pe lenu jbena fa la kraist. (Be merry/happy about the day associated with the birth of Christ.) Or maybe something shorter... ko gleki le xriso jbena djedi (Be happy/merry regarding the christian birth day.) or even make a lujvo: ko gleki le xi'ojbedei (I'm not sure if the xi'ojb is valid, however.) Also, "donri" means only the daytime portion of a full day, which is "djedi". -- Theodore Reed (rizen/bancus) -==- http://www.surreality.us/ ~OpenPGP Signed/Encrypted Mail Preferred; Finger me for my public key!~ "I read my note again today: "Do something important." Once again, I'm at a loss." -- Brandon Mechtley --=.FEd0w6un2pVH?/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+DMNvw24JwM4aDNwRAnYMAKCYSbTHnaW1Tf/2iDeJGEHy2KfHOQCgk4Fw RtspjE9kMuARaLA2bt/pQQs= =iYa4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.FEd0w6un2pVH?/--