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la filip cusku di'e

>Is gi'e more like noi or more like poi?

Both. :)

The difference is clear when the quantifier is {ro}:

1- ro cipni ku poi blabi cu vofli
= ro da poi cipni gi'e blabi cu vofli
= ro da zo'u genai da cipni gi'e blabi gi da vofli

2- ro cipni ku noi blabi cu vofli
= ro da poi cipni cu blabi gi'e vofli
= ro da zo'u genai da cipni gi da blabi gi'e vofli

So both {poi} and {noi} end up as gi'e, but with different
selbri: {noi} with the main selbri and {poi} with the selbri
inside the sumti.

If the quantifier is su'o, the difference between {noi} and
{poi} vanishes:

su'o cipni ku poi blabi cu vofli
= su'o da poi cipni gi'e blabi cu vofli
= su'o da zo'u ge da cipni gi'e blabi gi da vofli
= su'o da zo'u de da cipni gi da blabi gi'e vofli
= su'o da poi cipni cu blabi gi'e vofli
= su'o cipni ku noi blabi cu vofli


>What about indefinite references, though? That is, "I am *a* man who wrote 
>a
>letter to you?

mi du lo nanmu ku poi te xatra do
= mi du lo nanmu ku noi te xatra do
= mi nanmu gi'e te xatra do

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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