From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Jan 07 07:38:46 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Jan 2003 15:38:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 91635 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 15:38:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2003 15:38:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 15:38:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18VvoU-0001uN-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:38:46 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Vvnu-0001u0-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:38:10 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Vvno-0001tl-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:38:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h07Fbbk66846 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:37:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:37:37 -0500 (EST) To: "'lojban-list@lojban.org'" Subject: [lojban] Re: open and save In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030107103327.M66727-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3728 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Newton, Philip wrote: > la camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > > > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:36:23PM -0600, sbelknap wrote: > > > open is "get file": cpadacru > > > save is "put file": pujdacru > > > > > > Nooooooo! > > > > > > dacru is *not* a file in a computer! > > And in any event, wouldn't it be {rodycpa} and {rodypu'i} rather than > {cpabroda} and {pujbroda}? It's a file-kind-of getting IMO, rather than a > getting-kind-of-file. (Though I'd be more inclined to use "read" and "write" > rather than "get" and "put".) You don't need to specify what it is that you're opening or saving. That's for the file chooser to decide, it's not contained in the keywords "open" or "save". So, {cpacu, punji}, or {tcidu, ciska}, {broda, vreji}, or some {broda, tolbroda} pair for precise symmetry. > > You want vreji. > > Or {datnyvei}, which is what GnomeNewWords has (www.lojban.org appears to be > down right now, so see the old Wiki page: > http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?GnomeNewWords ). Or the most general term for "content": selsku -- // if (!terrorist) // ignore (); // else collect_data ();