From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Tue Jan 07 09:58:25 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Jan 2003 17:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12195 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 17:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2003 17:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 17:58:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Vxzc-0002xh-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:58:24 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18VxzB-0002xD-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:57:57 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.162]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Vxz4-0002ww-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 09:57:50 -0800 Received: (qmail 11459 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 17:57:45 -0000 Received: from cis5044.uicomp.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.250.44) by birch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 17:57:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:57:21 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: open and save Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <20030107055345.GM3954@digitalkingdom.org> Message-Id: <7885D119-2269-11D7-97F6-000393629ED4@uic.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-archive-position: 3731 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 The use of the lojban word for a computer file is not malglico. The analogy of computer file to a paper file is a language-independent extension of the concept of file to cyberspace. is not an apt lojban word for file. A file *contains* records. On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 11:53 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:36:23PM -0600, sbelknap wrote: >> open is "get file": cpadacru >> save is "put file": pujdacru > > > Nooooooo! > > > dacru is *not* a file in a computer! > > dacru dac drawer > x1 is a drawer/file in structure x2, a [sliding > compartment] container for contents x3 > > > You want vreji. > > -Robin