From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 07 10:06:20 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Jan 2003 18:06:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 31965 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2003 18:06:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2003 18:06:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2003 18:06:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Vy7I-000370-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:06:20 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Vy6k-00036c-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:05:46 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Vy6e-00036R-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:05:40 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:05:40 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: open and save Message-ID: <20030107180540.GX3954@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030107055345.GM3954@digitalkingdom.org> <7885D119-2269-11D7-97F6-000393629ED4@uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7885D119-2269-11D7-97F6-000393629ED4@uic.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 3732 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:57:21AM -0600, Steven Belknap wrote: > The use of the lojban word for a computer file is not > malglico. The analogy of computer file to a paper file is a > language-independent extension of the concept of file to cyberspace. That is *such* incredible crap. There are hundreds of languages that don't even have the *concept* of a file folder. And dacru isn't a file in that sense anyways, it's a drawer. A *physical* drawer. A *sliding* *compartment*, for crying out loud. > is not an apt lojban word for file. A file *contains* records. Umm, BS. Unless you're defining record as an ASCII character or something, I assure you, the vast majority of my files do not, in fact, contain records. They are records (i.e. permanent-ish storage) of data. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi