From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 07 18:40:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Jan 2003 02:40:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 73430 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2003 02:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2003 02:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2003 02:40:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18W68Q-0001Y0-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:40:02 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18W67j-0001XU-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:39:19 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18W67d-0001XL-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:39:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:39:13 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: open and save Message-ID: <20030108023913.GT3954@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030107180540.GX3954@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 3743 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:11:41AM -0000, And Rosta wrote: > Robin: > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:57:21AM -0600, Steven Belknap wrote: > > And dacru isn't a file in that sense anyways, it's a drawer. A > > *physical* drawer. A *sliding* *compartment*, for crying out loud > > > > > is not an apt lojban word for file. A file *contains* > > > records > > > > Umm, BS. Unless you're defining record as an ASCII character or > > something, I assure you, the vast majority of my files do not, in > > fact, contain records. They are records (i.e. permanent-ish > > storage) of data > > I agree in one sense, but from the user's point of view a file does > feel like a container. That's an argument for vasru, *not* dacru as such. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi