From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jan 13 19:03:54 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 14 Jan 2003 03:03:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 47651 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2003 03:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2003 03:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2003 03:03:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18YHMn-0004Sj-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:03:53 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18YHMX-0004SQ-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:03:37 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18YHMR-0004SH-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:03:31 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0E3BIfp047426 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h0E3BIeQ047425 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:18 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] gismu are no different from other brivla! (was Re: lojban language names in jbovlaste) Message-ID: <20030114031118.GA47184@allusion.net> References: <15d.1a5af776.2b54bba7@aol.com> <20030113174541.0cd4214e.rizen@surreality.us> <20030114014631.GZ420@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030114014631.GZ420@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 3798 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 05:46:31PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 05:45:41PM -0800, Theodore Reed wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:02:31 EST > > BestATN@aol.com wrote: > >=20 > > > how did italian not get its own gismu?=20=20 > >=20 > > This is why there's some amount of opposition to cultural gismu. >=20 > You mean, because they are stupid and arbitrary? 8) Bah! Make a fu'ivla. There's no reason every culture needs to have a *gismu* in order for some to have a gismu---any type of brivla will do. Special stage 4 fu'ivla will even let you have rafsi nowadays! So that argument is out (but it was out anyway, because obviously the rafsi in culture gismu go to the cultures most frequently talked about in lojban (glico, lojbo, etc)). :) --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+I3/VDrrilS51AZ8RApZHAKCqZXqa2J/3GUFmLRVQr2TT9/JZHQCaArgN TNLFGmtbFQqHAJpaTteCUHo= =cT9E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu--