From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jan 13 20:00:37 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 14 Jan 2003 04:00:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 95554 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2003 04:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2003 04:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2003 04:00:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18YIFg-0004pN-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:00:36 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18YIFa-0004p4-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:00:31 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18YIFQ-0004ov-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:00:25 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0E48Cfp048011 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:08:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h0E48Ckj048010 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:08:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:08:12 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: gismu are no different from other brivla! (was Re: lojban language names in jbovlaste) Message-ID: <20030114040812.GA47949@allusion.net> References: <15d.1a5af776.2b54bba7@aol.com> <20030113174541.0cd4214e.rizen@surreality.us> <20030114014631.GZ420@digitalkingdom.org> <20030114031118.GA47184@allusion.net> <20030114032801.GB16276@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030114032801.GB16276@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 3800 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 07:28:01PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 09:11:18PM -0600, Jordan DeLong wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 05:46:31PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 05:45:41PM -0800, Theodore Reed wrote: > > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:02:31 EST BestATN@aol.com wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > how did italian not get its own gismu?=20=20 > > > >=20 > > > > This is why there's some amount of opposition to cultural gismu. > > >=20 > > > You mean, because they are stupid and arbitrary? 8) > >=20 > > Bah! > >=20 > > Make a fu'ivla. There's no reason every culture needs to have a > > *gismu* in order for some to have a gismu >=20 > That was, for the record, my point. Ah. It sounded like you were supporting the idea that there should be either no cultural gismu or all cultural brivla should be gismu. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+I40sDrrilS51AZ8RAkk6AKCdCeZNZQGq9evwuPVHlsQaw3jGqQCfWJ/v 5uUY4ZQvAqsc8FV1T9Ro+VI= =KFVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl--