From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jan 17 09:10:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 17 Jan 2003 17:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 81935 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 17:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2003 17:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 17:10:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Za0y-0008Ci-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:10:44 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Za0I-0008Bd-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:10:02 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Za0A-0008BU-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:09:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:09:54 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Some comments on the FAQ Message-ID: <20030117170954.GO19352@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 3815 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 02:46:19PM +0100, Newton, Philip wrote: > http://www.lojban.org/resources/faq.html > > T2 claims that {ko bevri re spageti palta} could be mis-heard as {ko bevri > respa ge ti palta} -- but that would violate the stress rules of Lojban (not > to mention grammar -- can you have {ge} without {gi}?): > > {ko bevri re spageti palta} has to be {ko BEvri re spaGEti PALta} Umm, I was pretty sure that {ko BEvri RE spaGEti PALta} was legal; can't you have whatever stress you want on cmavo? > Specifically, {respa} has to be pronounced {REspa} but those two > syllables may not be stressed like that in the first example since, as > I understand it, cmavo before brivla may not be stressed -- {re > spageti} can only be {re spaGEti} and not {RE spaGEti} (though it > could be {RE. spaGEti}). Hmm... OK, that's probably better, but is it official? > So I'm not sure that the example is that good. (I don't have a better > one, however. {pitsa} would be even worse since it's a valid gismu > form. Not sure whether there are any other good "quintessential > examples", as the FAQ calls it, of fu'ivla.) unikorna? zo'oru'e -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi