From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Jan 19 21:28:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 20 Jan 2003 05:28:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 86027 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 05:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2003 05:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao01.cox.net) (68.1.17.244) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 05:28:34 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030120052833.IHTX16369.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:28:33 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030120000457.00ab2b60@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:09:38 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] By the way < tangent? In-Reply-To: References: <200301192303.40563.phma@webjockey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 10:22 PM 1/19/03 -0600, Steven Belknap wrote: >consider the English word "tangentially" > >On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 10:03 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > Chapter 13 lists the cmavo {ta'o} "by the way" as coming from {tanjo}, > > which > > is the word for a trigonometric function (li pa tanjo lo julra'o be li > > vomu). > > What's the connection? Also, is {zu'u} derived from {zunle}? The cmavo do sometimes come from malglico sound-alikes. It was at the time a memory hook for the all-English speakers learning the language, with the malglicoism (the one Steven suggests was indeed what we had in mind) so obvious that I wasn't afraid that people would think that ta'o had to do with trig functions. The alternative was pretty much random selection from a large set of available cmavo, and we tried to avoid randomness. If a tie to zunle is not noted in the list, then there probably was no tie, and it was chosen either randomly or for contrast with some other word we had in mind. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org