From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Jan 23 17:07:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 01:07:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 70826 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.185) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:07:31 -0800 Received: from 67.17.15.38 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Some comments on the FAQ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[F89C9900:01C2C344] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [67.17.15.38] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la camgusmis cusku di'e >On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:23:04PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > la lojbab cusku di'e > > > > > >{djarspageti} is NOT a type-3 fu'ivla. Only consonant ending > > > >rafsi can be used in type-3. > > > > > >That is NOT what CLL says, and it uses djarspageti as an example. > > > > This is the pertinent passage: > > > > Prefix the result of steps 1-5 with a 4-letter rafsi that categorizes >the > > fu'ivla into a ``topic area''. It is only safe to use a 4-letter rafsi; > > short rafsi sometimes produce invalid fu'ivla. > >Note the word 'sometimes'. But I never disputed that djarspageti is a valid fu'ivla. Type-3 require consonant ending rafsi as prefix precisely because other vowel ending rafsi sometimes produce invalid fu'ivla. Other times they produce valid fu'ivla, but they are not Type-3, which are the ones that can be created following the algorithm. Perhaps you are using a different definition of type-3, one that does not allow generating them easily? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail