From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Jan 24 04:44:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 12:44:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 95117 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 12:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 12:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao03.cox.net) (68.1.17.242) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 12:44:57 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030124124457.BDCX8666.lakemtao03.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:44:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030124073902.03412760@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:41:40 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [lojban] za'e "postnex" In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030123000111.0344ec20@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 01:33 PM 1/23/03 +0000, you wrote: > > >Not in Standard Lojban > > > > You just need to be creative > > > > [text] .i ro ibu zo'u go'i/la'edi'u > > or > > [text with no .i on the end] vau to ro ibu zo'u > >Both are elegant but in different ways (which could be discussed on >Jboske) they both require glorking to get from what they actually say >to the intended meaning, whereas ordinary prenexes don't. It may require some conventions (grammatical scope being undefined for afterthought structures). But predefined conventions are good, even when unofficial, in that they eliminate the need to glork from context. (this is not to say that >I< will always approve of them). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org