From phma@webjockey.net Fri Jan 24 05:19:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 13:19:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1457 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 13:19:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 13:19:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 13:19:02 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F225CA4AA; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: Robert LeChevalier , lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: valfendi algorithm Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:19:01 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030123201332.GA7230@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030124074752.0360aec0@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030124074752.0360aec0@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301240819.01200.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Friday 24 January 2003 07:56, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > This does not sound like it is a proper defining algorithm for the Lojban > morphology as you've described it, and as a first glance at the text > indicates. It may parse all well-formed Lojban words, but it also may > successfully lex some not-well-formed Lojban (your algorithm seems to allow > fu'ivla with embedded text strings that would invalidate the fu'ivla if it > is a proper gismu or rafsi, but allows the fu'ivla if it is not). This is > merely another stage in our long running dispute as to whether type IV > fu'ivla are to be constrained to specific forms positively defined, or can > consist of anything lexable word that could be a brivla that isn't a gismu > or lujvo. I am planning further versions which will check all words for well-formedness. Currently it accepts anything ending in a consonant and not containing a cmegadri as a cmene, including such unpronounceable messes as {mzantcesg}. What do you mean by "fu'ivla with embedded text strings that would invalidate the fu'ivla if it is a proper gismu or rafsi, but allows the fu'ivla if it is not"? Can you give an example? phma