From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 28 07:26:22 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 28 Jan 2003 15:26:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 64675 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 15:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2003 15:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 15:26:22 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18dXcz-0005st-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:26:21 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18dXcg-0005rC-00; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:26:03 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67] ident=[hqW1mRpQoOwQcytMgIvQsH2l9Qk4fIsd]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18dXcP-0005q4-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:25:45 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no ([IPv6:::ffff:129.241.210.68]:53665 "EHLO hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no" ident: "[0gfYw58AFEtYSKi1awNMFrkm09xNCuGU]" whoson: "-unregistered-") by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:25:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:25:26 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Community Proposal To Develop Conversational Fluency In-Reply-To: <20030128033849.GB28812@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: References: <20030128033849.GB28812@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 3929 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Arnt Richard Johansen From: Arnt Richard Johansen Reply-To: arj@nvg.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > The following things seem to be true: > > 1.  We all bitch about having no-one to speak lojban with. mi na go'i > 2.  The computer voice chat thing isn't working. ma nabmi le go'i .i xu na benji le sance? > 3.  The pairs determine among themselves when and for how long each week > to have a phone conversation in (or at least mostly in) lojban.  They > also determine who is going to pay, or, if both will pay sometimes, how > that will be mixed. mi na'e nelci lo nu tavla fi zi'o .i ru'a so'i prenu go'i > Theoretically, this should lead to a large network of people who all > speak lojban fairly fluently, and at least somewhat speak the same > dialect. go'i .i cumki fa lo lojbo nunbacru nunfrica ba jimpe nabmi .i la'anai le go'i ba me la sapir uorf nabmi .i le gerna noi me la sapir uorf vajni cu manfo le ka bacru joi le ka ciska > What do you all think? zabna .i ku'i canai cinri mi poi pamei -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ I think it's fair to say that a lot of Hikawa's popularity is due to the novelty factor of his youth; most male enka singers look like they've been driving trucks up and down the Tomei Highway for 20 years while living on a diet of ramen, shochu and shabu (speed). -Steve McClure