From phma@webjockey.net Wed Jan 29 16:33:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_1); 30 Jan 2003 00:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 49998 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 00:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2003 00:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 00:33:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18e2e4-0005OI-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:32 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18e2dy-0005Nz-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:26 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18e2ds-0005Nk-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:20 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 54255A9F7; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:32:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301291932.51977.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 3950 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 18:53, And Rosta wrote: > Robin: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:08:40AM +0000, Martin Bays wrote: > > > Yes, but the examples there (as far as I can see) all apply to DA. And > > > the scope of a DA cmavo, as the CLL says I forget where, is very short > > > - and in particular an {.i} (as opposed to an ijek/ijoik) cancels all > > > DA assignments - and since you can only have a prenex at the start of > > > a statement, not after an ijek/ijoik, your prenexed DA will never have > > > a previous assignment (except what about sub-bridi, say in a du'u? Can > > > DA assignments descend?) > > The rule applied in Academic Lojban is that DA is bound in the localmost > bridi it occurs in, and the binding lasts for as long as the bridi does. > For DA stay bound across sentence boundaries requires use of tu'e. The bridi, or the jufra? phma