From phma@webjockey.net Thu Jan 30 04:10:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 30 Jan 2003 12:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 25420 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 12:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2003 12:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 12:10:28 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18eDWW-0000Tc-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:28 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18eDWQ-0000TJ-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:22 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18eDWK-0000T1-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:16 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C0CB8834; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:09:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301300709.48223.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 3955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:57, And Rosta wrote: > Pierre: > #> The rule applied in Academic Lojban is that DA is bound in the localmost > #> bridi it occurs in, and the binding lasts for as long as the bridi does. > #> For DA [to] stay bound across sentence boundaries requires use of tu'e. > # > #The bridi, or the jufra? > > The binding lasts as long as the (logical) bridi does. Implicitly or > explicitly connected jufra jointly form a logical bridi. I thought that a jufra is composed of 0 or more bridi. For example: {.uiro'o} is one jufra with zero bridi. (le mlatu cu bunra} is one jufra with one bridi. {ro da se risna .ijo da se livga} is one jufra with two bridi. {mi klama le zarci .i mi rinsa le pendo} is two jufra with two bridi. Whether two bridi connected by {.iku'i} or {.ibo} are separate jufra is iffy. phma