From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 30 12:24:55 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 30 Jan 2003 20:24:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28781 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2003 20:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2003 20:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 20:24:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18eLEz-0001bQ-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:24:53 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18eLED-0001b0-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:24:05 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18eLE7-0001ar-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:23:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:23:59 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e Message-ID: <20030130202358.GZ28812@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030129225247.GI28812@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 3961 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:00:22AM +0000, Martin Bays wrote: > But if you mean generally, I don't see how you can just let DA > assignments persist indefinitely. Sure you can use new variables, but > for how long can you keep track of which subscripts are still > available? Having to use da'o to wipe everything seems like overkill, > and using it for each one would be a huge pain. no'i as well. > Sure, for casual usage I guess can you could let context decide > whether your DA is new or not (though I don't like it), but surely we > should have some proper rules? For that, my vote goes to the second > CLL passage you quoted. > Anyway, sorry, this is all aside from the point. I'll try to ask my > real question clearly, and then I'll stop bugging you all with my > annoying newbie questions and pretensions to having a clue what the > hell I'm talking about. Heh. *I'm* enjoying it. > > > > Note, however, that in both cases the poi does *not* appear to > > > > be binding to just the ny. > > > > > > It *isn't*? Why not? And what is it binding to, then? > > > > ro boi ny. (as opposed to just ny.). Probably doesn't matter. > > > > OK... but only in the sense that {ro da poi...} has the poi binding to > ro da rather than just da, right? Correct. > > > >Not sure that's a problem in this case, though. What's the boi > > > >there for anyways? > > > > > > {ro ny.} counts as a number, for some reason. EBNF: "number = PA > > > [PA ! lerfu-word]...". No idea what use this was included for, > > > though. > > > > Umm, makes sense to me. Why is that a problem? > > It got lost to my over-zealous snipping (.u'u), but the example > started with something like {ro boi ny. zo'u...}. {ro ny. zo'u...} > doesn't parse, in the same way that {ci zo'u...} doesn't, and wouldn't > make any obvious sense if it did. Huh. OK. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi