From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Feb 02 00:00:50 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 2 Feb 2003 08:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 91404 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 08:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2003 08:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao01.cox.net) (68.1.17.244) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 08:00:49 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030202080048.EXNV16369.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 03:00:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030202021940.032e5740@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 02:39:33 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: "x years ago" In-Reply-To: <200302011936.28936.phma@webjockey.net> References: <1044106135.2490.24.camel@home.surreality.us> <1044106135.2490.24.camel@home.surreality.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 07:36 PM 2/1/03 -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: >On Saturday 01 February 2003 08:28, Theodore Reed wrote: > > I've been trying all night to figure out how to specify an exact time in > > the past, as in "X years ago, Y happened." Does anyone know how I could > > translate this? > >pu le nanca be li xy.boi ybu fasnu Before the X year period, Y happened >or to be more precise >pu le cabna ce'e le nanca be li xy.boi ybu fasnu I'm not sure what this means. One way to do it is to pattern after examples in section 25 of the tense chapter of CLL page 251, which explicit discusses location offsets, but time offsets work exactly the same way except using pu as the time direction instead of zu'a space direction. This allows the most flexibility, making it possible to express X years before event Y, Z happened. Another way (my instinctive approach), patterned after page 222 mi co'a le ze'apu nanca be li xy. boi ybu fasnu lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org