From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Feb 02 07:27:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 2 Feb 2003 15:27:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 95453 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 15:27:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2003 15:27:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 15:27:13 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18fM1Z-0007d0-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:27:13 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18fM0l-0007Z3-00; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:26:23 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18fM0U-0007Y7-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 07:26:06 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h12FX00h065042 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:33:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h12FX0th065041 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:33:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:33:00 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Ungrammatical examples in CLL Message-ID: <20030202153300.GA65000@allusion.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030202020915.032e2b60@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030202020915.032e2b60@pop.east.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 3983 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 02:10:00AM -0500, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > At 08:36 AM 2/1/03 -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 03:25:37PM +0000, Martin Bays wrote: > > > Further to the problems with prenex-connective interaction - > > > > > > 16.10.5: > > > roda zo'u mi prami da .ije naku zo'u do prami da > > > > > > and 16.10.6: > > > su'oda zo'u mi prami da .ije naku zo'u do prami da > > > > > > do not parse. Try them on jbofihe. You can use ge...gi instead, and > > > that seems fine, but (as I mentioned the other day) it looks like you > > > can't have individually prenexed sentences connected in afterthought. > > > > > > Damned annoying, if you ask me. > > > >For the record, jbofi'e has been shown to have errors before. >=20 > They parse correctly in the official parser. This is because the official parser uses an outdated version of the BNF. Jbofi'e is right---it is ungrammatical in the newer grammar. (Which really sucks, btw.) --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+PTosDrrilS51AZ8RAp2mAKDDt5NCoyGHHsUBnWHMTCYsbcB5TQCfSZuJ GgOvoOVJ8Xq1N4D1Sqf+YpE= =Bbau -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--