From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Feb 02 08:27:40 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 2 Feb 2003 16:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 76872 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 16:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2003 16:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.103) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 16:27:39 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:27:39 -0800 Received: from 200.69.6.53 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:27:39 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] "x years ago" Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:27:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2003 16:27:39.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[00F26EF0:01C2CAD8] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.53] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la bancus cusku di'e >I've been trying all night to figure out how to specify an exact time in >the past, as in "X years ago, Y happened." Does anyone know how I could >translate this? I use ZA for the magnitudes of displacement, so I would say: ybu pu fasnu za lo nanca be li xy CLL uses a special construction with termsets for this, but in complicated cases it can lead to ambiguity. {pu lo nanca be li xy} means "in the past of an x-year-long period, but it doesn't say it's just before a very recent x-year-long period. It could mean two years before an x-year-long period that occured seven years ago, so that y happened x + 9 years ago. However, the use of ZA to tag magnitudes is not standard. The official prescripton says that ZA tags the origin of the displacement, just like PU. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail