From Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Thu Feb 06 02:59:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 6 Feb 2003 10:59:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2012 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 10:59:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2003 10:59:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 10:59:34 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gjkh-0005JD-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:59:31 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gjjs-0005Io-00; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:58:40 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw1.gedas.de ([139.1.44.12] helo=spree.gedas.de) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gjib-0005Hy-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:57:21 -0800 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21054 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:57:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21050 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:57:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: To: "'lojban-list@lojban.org'" Subject: [lojban] Re: Language Names, please. Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:57:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-archive-position: 4022 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Newton, Philip" Reply-To: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23036112 X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Need to fill in the names for these languages in lojban for jbovlaste: I suggest http://www.languages-in-languages.de.vu/ (a redirector, btw), which uses Unicode to represent the names of languages. (I'd look it up for you, but timwi runs his site on port 8989 which I can't access through this firewall.) > sk - Slovak - Slovencina > sl - Slovenian - Slovenscina I think the first needs a hachek on the c, and the second on both the s and the c. That is, sk - Slovak - Slovenčina sl - Slovenian - Slovenščina Based on vague recollection and the fact that Googling produces a fair number of hits. (They could be in the wrong language, though, for example in Czech talking about Slovak, or in Croatian talking about Slovenian, or whatever. Better double-check.) > vi - Vietnamese - Tiêng Viêt I *think* this might be Tiếng Việt instead (the first being "e with circumflex and acute", the second being "e with circumflex and dot below"), based on search results for "tie^'ng Vie^.t" in Google, which gets quite a lot of hits. (That being the VIQR [Vietnamese Quoted-Readable] representation, if I remember correctly.) > uk - Ukrainian - > Укранська > ; - vukro I think this should be Українська , with an extra "yi" before the n. I'm pretty sure there's *some* vowel missing ("Ukrans'ka" sounds implausible to me) but I'm not sure whether it's i (і), yi (ї), or y (и). [Hmm, based on googling again, I'm pretty sure it's "Ukrayins'ka [mova]", i.e. with ї.) And I'm not sure whether it needs the separate "mova" afterwards (which means "language") or whether "Ukrains'ka" is enough. mu'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated, since I read the digest] {ko fukpi mrilu fi mi ki'u le du'u mi te mrilu le notseljmaji} -- filip.niutyn. All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.