From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Feb 06 19:31:31 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 7 Feb 2003 03:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25104 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 03:31:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2003 03:31:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao01.cox.net) (68.1.17.244) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 03:31:30 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030207033129.LMEF16369.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org>; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:31:29 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030206221251.036511d0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:26:10 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Grammatical Examples in the CLL (was Re: Re: Ungrammatical examples in CLL) Cc: jcowan@reutershealth.com In-Reply-To: <20030207021156.GA85399@allusion.net> References: <20030203183258.GA17969@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030202020915.032e2b60@pop.east.cox.net> <20030202153300.GA65000@allusion.net> <20030203183258.GA17969@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 08:11 PM 2/6/03 -0600, Jordan DeLong wrote: [unquotable] It appears you are correct, and I was using a not quite final parser. The final parser indeed rejects it. Techfix 45 rejiggered the .ije grammar with the result that prenexes are not allowed after ije, but apparently Cowan did not consider the effects on his own examples and explanation. This gets bumped to Cowan who wrote both the examples and the techfix (to explain author intent), and thence to byfy for resolution of what seems to be a clear contradiction between the text explanation/examples in Chapter 16 section 10 and the final grammar resulting from the techfix. I coulda sworn someone ran all the examples through the final parser a LONG time ago. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org