From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Feb 08 01:51:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 8 Feb 2003 09:51:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 93428 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 09:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2003 09:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 09:51:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hReJ-0005oo-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:51:51 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hReG-0005oV-00; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:51:48 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu ([18.7.7.76]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hRe9-0005oI-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:51:41 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA04230 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA02874 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from torg.mit.edu (RANDOM-THREE-NINETY-SIX.MIT.EDU [18.243.6.141]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA00442 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18hRYh-0008Ig-00 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 04:46:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 04:46:03 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sumtcita needed, badly. Message-ID: <20030208094603.GB31713@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030208083222.GB16074@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030208083222.GB16074@digitalkingdom.org> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4060 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:32:22AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > I can't even count the number of times in conversational lojban that > I've wanted a sumtcita for *any* word that has a 'topic' or 'subject of > discussion' sort of place. > > It's also pretty sad that there's no analogue to cusku with a subject > place i.e. expression on a topic. cusku requires actual *text* in the > second place, which just blows my mind; I can't think of any reason for > that. Um, {tavla}? x1 talks/speaks to x2 __about subject x3__ in language x4 So the places are in a different order; that shouldn't matter, though. -- mu'o mi'e rab.spir