From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Feb 08 06:33:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 8 Feb 2003 14:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 30737 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 14:33:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2003 14:33:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 14:33:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hW2m-0000vN-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:33:24 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hW2f-0000uq-00; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:33:17 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hW2Q-0000uB-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:33:02 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h18EeU0h000194 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:40:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h18EeULt000193 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:40:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:40:30 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sumtcita needed, badly. Message-ID: <20030208144030.GB99931@allusion.net> References: <20030208083222.GB16074@digitalkingdom.org> <20030208105358.GE16074@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030208105358.GE16074@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 4065 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:53:58AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:50:44AM +0000, Martin Bays wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >=20 > > > I can't even count the number of times in conversational lojban that > > > I've wanted a sumtcita for *any* word that has a 'topic' or 'subject = of > > > discussion' sort of place. > > > > > > It's also pretty sad that there's no analogue to cusku with a subject > > > place i.e. expression on a topic. cusku requires actual *text* in th= e > > > second place, which just blows my mind; I can't think of any reason f= or > > > that. > >=20 > > Else - what's wrong with fi'o? fi'o se {casnu|jufra|du'u cusku}? >=20 > It's annoyingly long for something that comes up more often than just > about every other sumtcita I'm aware of. tebau ? --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+RRbeDrrilS51AZ8RAvikAKC4F3KNKDo0sHe97AGWw928R7PsjgCgtre1 7S9nbcbzPM9ZhKj4u9fElbQ= =tXzb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm--