From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Feb 08 06:40:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 8 Feb 2003 14:40:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 38502 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 14:40:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2003 14:40:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 14:40:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hW9P-0001Eq-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:40:15 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hW9I-0001EK-00; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:40:08 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hW91-0001Dj-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:39:51 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h18ElJ0h000462 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:47:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h18ElJhw000461 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:47:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:47:19 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sumtcita needed, badly. Message-ID: <20030208144719.GA395@allusion.net> References: <20030208083222.GB16074@digitalkingdom.org> <20030208105358.GE16074@digitalkingdom.org> <20030208144030.GB99931@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030208144030.GB99931@allusion.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 4066 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:40:30AM -0600, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:53:58AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:50:44AM +0000, Martin Bays wrote: > > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >=20 > > > > I can't even count the number of times in conversational lojban tha= t > > > > I've wanted a sumtcita for *any* word that has a 'topic' or 'subjec= t of > > > > discussion' sort of place. > > > > > > > > It's also pretty sad that there's no analogue to cusku with a subje= ct > > > > place i.e. expression on a topic. cusku requires actual *text* in = the > > > > second place, which just blows my mind; I can't think of any reason= for > > > > that. > > >=20 > > > Else - what's wrong with fi'o? fi'o se {casnu|jufra|du'u cusku}? > >=20 > > It's annoyingly long for something that comes up more often than just > > about every other sumtcita I'm aware of. >=20 > tebau ? Actually, "sera'a". --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+RRh2DrrilS51AZ8RAmqxAKCjRB4/wrcgMTDHl6ruyjcmDqIH9QCbBeVm BQLokcKtL2cxbjj86GcgAT0= =VHh6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+--