From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Feb 16 01:52:15 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 16 Feb 2003 09:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 84258 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 09:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2003 09:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 09:52:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kLT3-0007qH-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:52:13 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kLSC-0007pe-00; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:51:20 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kLRz-0007pL-00; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:51:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:51:07 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Threading Issues (or, please don't use hotmail) Message-ID: <20030216095107.GA29970@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4092 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out It turns out that certain web mail services, in particular MSN and hotmail, break threading for certain threading mail readers, in particular mutt, which an unreasonable percentage of this list uses. There are two aspects to this solution: 1. Don't use hotmail. I am not, at this time, aware of any other webmail service that has this problem. You can also ask me to give you a real account on my machine. 2. If you are a mutt user, it will make things much better for you if you add these lines to your .muttrc: set strict_threads=no set sort_re=no This should make threads re-coalesce, even when hotmail mails are interspersed. set thread_received=yes might also be helpful; it should deal with people whose clocks are set strangely. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi