From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Feb 20 10:20:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 20 Feb 2003 18:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 68381 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 18:20:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2003 18:20:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 18:20:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lvIo-0000GG-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:20:10 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lvIf-0000FY-00; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:20:01 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lvIY-0000FP-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:19:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:19:54 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: another tag Message-ID: <20030220181954.GK11447@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030220001128.GA30112@digitalkingdom.org> <20030220112305.M50679-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220112305.M50679-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4113 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:29:08AM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:02:42AM +0100, jexOm. wrote: > > > If I want to say something like: "Learn Lojban! You'll like it, for > > > sure.", I really want to repeat the previous bridi. > > > In fact I started from the example page 97 in the CLL. The example is > > > {la djan. klama le zarci .i la djan. go'i troci}. > > > And I realize now that {.i ko tadni la lojban .i ju'o do ba go'i nelci} > > > may be better, because if I use this example, it goes like: > > > {do tadni la lojban.} > > > {do go'i nelci} for {do tadni be la lojban. be'o nelci} > > > You are a learner (learning lojban) type of one-who-likes. > > > > No; you are a learner-of-lojban type-of liker. What you like is not > > actually specified. > > > > > What do you think? > > > > I think that you want "nelci le nu go'i" > > A slob like me would find ".i ko tadni la lojban .i ju'o do ba nelci" > quite sufficient. Coming from English, we have the tendency to > overspecify when context really makes it perfectly clear what we mean. An excellent point xod. I'm of the opinion that dropping unnecessary specificity in favour of context is one of lojban's major saving graces in the face of its amazing tendency to verbosity. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi