From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Feb 28 10:52:02 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 28 Feb 2003 18:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 18632 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 18:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2003 18:52:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 18:52:00 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18opbx-0003hH-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:51:57 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18opbA-0003gG-00; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:51:08 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18opaI-0003fb-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:50:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:50:13 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Any (was: Nick will be with you shortly) Message-ID: <20030228185013.GW17252@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030228180623.GP17252@digitalkingdom.org> <20030228134141.S4979-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030228134141.S4979-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4234 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:42:33PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:23:55PM -0500, Craig wrote: > > > mi nitcu da. Let's start with that. Do you at least agree that there > > > isn't a specific thing which I mean that I need? > > > > Absolutely not. > > > > mi nitcu da == There exists an X such that I need it. > > > > X could be *VERY* specific. Say the x3 of nitcu is le nu cikre le mi > > karce poi finti de'i li pa so no ze ... > > Great, five posts in a row all expressing the same idea. Yep. Just like your 3 or 4 or whatever. > So, you think da is specific, do you? I can't work with you. Carry on. Straight out of the book: 4.2) da poi prenu zo'u da viska la djim. There-is-an-X which is-a-person : X sees Jim. Someone sees Jim. If you think this means the same thing as "any person sees me", including the *BLIND* *ONES*, then you're right, we can't work this out. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi