From ragnarok@pobox.com Fri Feb 28 12:52:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 28 Feb 2003 20:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 88723 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 20:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2003 20:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 20:52:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18orUM-00059l-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:52:14 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18orTS-00059L-00; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:51:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18orTI-000598-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:51:08 -0800 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id AB9AD2E0290; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:50:34 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Any (was: Nick will be with you shortly) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030228185013.GW17252@digitalkingdom.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] X-archive-position: 4241 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Craig" Reply-To: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:23:55PM -0500, Craig wrote: >> > > mi nitcu da. Let's start with that. Do you at least agree that there >> > > isn't a specific thing which I mean that I need? >> > >> > Absolutely not. >> > >> > mi nitcu da == There exists an X such that I need it. >> > >> > X could be *VERY* specific. Say the x3 of nitcu is le nu cikre le mi >> > karce poi finti de'i li pa so no ze ... >> >> Great, five posts in a row all expressing the same idea. >Yep. Just like your 3 or 4 or whatever. >> So, you think da is specific, do you? I can't work with you. Carry on. >Straight out of the book: >4.2) da poi prenu zo'u da viska la djim. > There-is-an-X which is-a-person : X sees Jim. > Someone sees Jim. But if you ask for da poi prenu zo'u da viska la djim to become true, you won't care who sees Jim, right?