From ragnarok@pobox.com Fri Feb 28 13:12:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 28 Feb 2003 21:12:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 67421 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2003 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ornu-0005Na-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:12:26 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ornm-0005NE-00; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:12:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18orne-0005N3-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:12:10 -0800 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id A08672D0272; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:11:34 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Any (was: Nick will be with you shortly) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030228210827.GB17252@digitalkingdom.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] X-archive-position: 4244 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Craig" Reply-To: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >> >> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:23:55PM -0500, Craig wrote: >> >> > > mi nitcu da. Let's start with that. Do you at least agree that >> >> > > there isn't a specific thing which I mean that I need? >> >> > >> >> > Absolutely not. >> >> > >> >> > mi nitcu da == There exists an X such that I need it. >> >> > >> >> > X could be *VERY* specific. Say the x3 of nitcu is le nu cikre >> >> > le mi karce poi finti de'i li pa so no ze ... >> >> >> >> Great, five posts in a row all expressing the same idea. >> >> >Yep. Just like your 3 or 4 or whatever. >> >> >> So, you think da is specific, do you? I can't work with you. Carry >> >> on. >> >> >Straight out of the book: >> >> >4.2) da poi prenu zo'u da viska la djim. >> > There-is-an-X which is-a-person : X sees Jim. >> > Someone sees Jim. >> >> But if you ask for da poi prenu zo'u da viska la djim to become true, >> you won't care who sees Jim, right? >Tell me how to ask for that in lojban, and I'll see about answering the >question. .i bai ko le du'u da poi prenu zo'u da la djim viska ku cu jetnu Easy even for us relative beginners.