From phma@webjockey.net Mon Mar 03 03:20:40 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 3 Mar 2003 11:20:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6347 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 11:20:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2003 11:20:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 11:20:40 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18pnzr-0000GI-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:20:39 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pnzK-0000Fr-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:20:06 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from p3ee2b590.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.226.181.144] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pnyy-0000FT-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:19:44 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DE8562482; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:19:41 +0100 (MET) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: gismu etemology Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:19:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030302155703.GA8303@allusion.net> <3E622AFF.2000207@bilkent.edu.tr> In-Reply-To: <3E622AFF.2000207@bilkent.edu.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy" Message-Id: <200303031219.41422.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4283 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 02 March 2003 17:02, robin wrote: > Jordan DeLong wrote: > > Is there data for this stuff somewhere? > > http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology.html Given the .voc files mentioned on that page, you can run this script and it'll tell you (for most gismu - it fails on "vensa") the words in the six languages. "vensa" is obviously from Russian "vesna", but what are the other words that caused the consonants to be switched? phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy Content-Type: application/x-shellscript; name="voc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="voc" #!/bin/sh LINE=`grep -n $1 lojban.voc|cut -f 1 -d :` if [ x$LINE == x ] then echo No such word exit fi head -$LINE arabic.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE english.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE spanish.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE chinese.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE hindi.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE russian.voc |tail -1 --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy--