From cowan@ccil.org Mon Mar 03 03:33:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 3 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 26601 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18poCd-0000UC-00 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:33:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: gismu etemology In-Reply-To: <200303031219.41422.phma@webjockey.net> from Pierre Abbat at "Mar 3, 2003 12:19:41 pm" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:33:50 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan Pierre Abbat scripsit: > "vensa" is obviously from Russian "vesna", but what are the other words that > caused the consonants to be switched? Checking finprims, the culprit is Chinese "cuen" (in Lojban phonetics), which scores 2 for the match on "en", but would score 0 against "vesna". The 3 scores for "vernl" (English), "vasant" (Hindi), and "visna" (Russian) would be unaffected, as would the 2 score for "primaver" (Spanish). -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful. --_The Hobbit_