From ragnarok@pobox.com Mon Mar 03 03:56:10 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 3 Mar 2003 11:56:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 47365 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 11:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2003 11:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 11:56:10 -0000 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id A2DB8C301FE; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:56:11 -0500 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] gismu etemology Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >> Is there data for this stuff somewhere? >The nitty-gritty details are at http://www.lojban.org/files/etymology/finprims This puzzles me. The Spanish glosses are sometimes really weird. eg, pont - puente kord - cuerda port - puerta This 'ue' does represent an original /O/, but it contrasts with /o/. It is also not pronounced o anywhere, except maybe portugal - and that is generally not thought of as the same language. What happened?