From xod@thestonecutters.net Mon Mar 03 20:09:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 4 Mar 2003 04:09:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 65160 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 04:09:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2003 04:09:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 04:09:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18q3kR-00054L-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:09:47 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q3kL-000540-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:09:41 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q3kE-00053g-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:09:34 -0800 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2449dXd059616 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:09:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h2449cPP059613 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:09:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:09:38 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: The Any thread In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030303230606.S59198-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4326 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Craig wrote: > Third, the fact that anyone disagrees about the meaning of {mi nitcu lo > mikce} means that there *is* a question. What's rather amusing here is that only a few months ago, Jordan and I were arguing on opposite sides. Now that I accepted his argument, Jordan has switched to my previous position. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jboske/message/1087 (14 dec 2002) me: > It doesn't require it, but it doesn't forbid it either, and da is often > used to refer to specific entities that the speaker has in mind, and of > which the speaker wants to assert the existence, and wants to assign a > variable. Jordan: This is what is confusing you: You *can't* use da to refer to something specific. -- What would Jesus bomb?