From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Wed Mar 05 03:03:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 5 Mar 2003 11:03:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19267 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 11:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2003 11:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.bluewin.ch) (195.186.4.73) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 11:03:44 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.159.237) by mail2.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.7.015) id 3E1029A20064B2FF for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:03:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2e306$bb534260$ed9fca3e@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" Subject: Any Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:01:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke I have two possible solutions to the problem of saying: "I need a doctor" (ie any doctor will do) (1){mi nitcu lu'a lo'i mikce} or (2){lo se nitcu be mi cu mikce} I think these both work but set out to solve different problems. (1) says "take the set of doctors, I need a member of that set". ta'o This is also the way I would solve "Someone feed the cat": {lu'a ro ko le mlatu} (2) arises from another concern. I'm wondering whether it would work differently if da is scoped as being a {se nitcu}. It only works if the following are not equivalent: mi nitcu da poi mikce da poi se nitcu be mi cu mikce da se nitcu be mi gi'e mikce btw I assume: mi nitcu da poi mikce = da poi mikce zo'u mi nitcu da = mi nitcu lo mikce What do you think? Greg -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke e'osai ko sarji la lojban - www.lojban.org "That man is such an ignoramus, Father." [...] "Stand inside his soul and see the world through his eyes. You will feel the pain he feels because of his ignorance, and you will not laugh." -- Chaim Potok, "The Chosen"