From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Mar 05 16:26:38 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 00:26:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 62077 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 00:26:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 00:26:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 00:26:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18qjDa-0005fF-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:26:38 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qjDW-0005ew-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:26:34 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qjDQ-0005el-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:26:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB95321FB for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:25:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp109.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.109]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126012F413 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:25:54 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3E6695FC.5090704@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:27:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: The Any thread References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 4384 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Craig wrote: > But, doctors do exist, and if they didn't there wouldn't be one I don't > need. And claims that the existence of a specific doctor that I don't need > falsifies my reading of "mi nitcu lo mikce", but I claim the existence of a > specific doctor that I do need would falsify it, and e is just > misinterpreting. No, you can need something that doesn't exist. BTW, "doctor" is not a good translation for "mikce", since the latter also includes nurses, paramedics etc. robin.tr -- "The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin