From phma@webjockey.net Fri Mar 07 17:34:13 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 8 Mar 2003 01:34:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 49307 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 01:34:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Mar 2003 01:34:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 01:34:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rTE4-0006i6-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:34:12 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rTDq-0006hk-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:33:58 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rTDa-0006hX-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:33:43 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C9242B92; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 01:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] ntc in cmene Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:33:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303072033.36591.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4404 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 I wrote the cmene validation routine in valfendi but have a question. The paragraph in Chapter 3 says: "Lojbanized names can begin or end with any permissible consonant pair, not just the 48 initial consonant pairs listed above, and can have consonant triples in any location, as long as the pairs making up those triples are permissible. In addition, names can contain consonant clusters with more than three consonants, again requiring that each pair within the cluster is valid." There are four consonant triplets which have permissible pairs but which are not permitted by the previous line. Are they forbidden in cmene as well as in brivla? I have written the routine as if they are. I also put the ala'um test in the validation routine instead of the lexer. If you type "la ala'um" in standard mode, it lexes it as "la ala'um" and then calls "ala'um" invalid. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.