From phma@webjockey.net Fri Mar 07 18:03:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 8 Mar 2003 02:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 45434 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 02:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Mar 2003 02:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 02:03:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rTgS-0006uf-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:03:32 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rTgG-0006uL-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:03:20 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rTfw-0006r8-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:03:00 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67F3C2B92; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 02:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: ntc in cmene Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:02:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200303072033.36591.phma@webjockey.net> <20030308013513.GH15380@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20030308013513.GH15380@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303072102.54128.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4406 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Friday 07 March 2003 20:35, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:33:36PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > I also put the ala'um test in the validation routine instead of the > > lexer. If you type "la ala'um" in standard mode, it lexes it as "la > > ala'um" and then calls "ala'um" invalid. > > For those of us who haven't really been paying attention, what's the > ala'um test? An alternative test of the validity of cmene, which is simpler to implement even though it sounds more complicated. According to the ala'um rule, an occurrence of "la", "lai", "la'i", or "doi" in a string of letters ending in a consonant is broken off if and only if it is immediately preceded by a vowel or is at the beginning of the string and it is immediately followed by a consonant. Thus "ala'um" (a proposed lojbanization of the Arabic word for God) and "laus" (a country near Cambodia) are valid. By the standard test they are invalid, but "laus" gives problems if you try to lex it by splitting the "la" off as that results in "la us", which is valid but different. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.