From phma@webjockey.net Sat Mar 08 19:14:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 9 Mar 2003 03:14:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 83582 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2003 03:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2003 03:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2003 03:14:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18rrH7-0005XX-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:14:57 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rrGu-0005XE-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:14:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rrGj-0005X4-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:14:36 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A5A0E1A7; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:14:27 -0500 (EST) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] multiple translations Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:14:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303082214.27207.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4407 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 I added {selratni}, {cmuxu'i}, and {xu'icmu}, all of which are appropriate translations of "element;chemical", to jbovlaste. They all are true of the same x1 (except that one may argue that lo solnavni na xu'icmu da), but have different place structures and are used in different contexts: lo'e kliru cu selratni fi reda .i le vi kliru cu cmuxu'i fi li 99% .i lo kliru cu xu'icmu le silna So which should be the translation in jbovlaste? phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga