From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Mar 12 20:48:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 13 Mar 2003 04:48:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 94443 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 04:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2003 04:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 04:48:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tKeC-0002Bn-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:48:52 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tKdF-0002BD-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:47:53 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tKd7-0002Ay-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:47:45 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:47:45 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Suggestions Sought: NORALUJV and jbovlaste Message-ID: <20030313044745.GS25165@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030313003009.GO25165@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4454 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:36:06PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > > > NORALUJV cannot usefully be loaded into jbovlaste, because the > > definition format in no way resembles the lojbanic standard. For > > example: > > > > fazyta'a annoy+talk > > fanza+tavla: chatter: x1 = tavla1 (talk) = fanza 1 (pest), x2 = > > tavla2 (talked to), x3 = tavla3 (talk subject), x4 = tavla4 (talk > > language), x5 = fanza2 (annoyed) > > Noralujv was originally in the standard you are talking about, but I > ran it through a Perl program (or maybe an awk program) to expand the > place structure names like "t1" to "tavla1". I am stressed for time > right now, but it shouldn't be that hard to write some code to do the > reverse transformation. The gismu names are right there in the third > field for you, so you can figure out the minimum abbrevs in advance, > remembering that "x" is never a valid abbreviation of any gismu. OK, we're obviously talking about different standards. x1 is a chatterer who chatters at x2 about x3 in language x4 And, by the way, fanza2 is clearly x2 of fazyta'a (i.e. equal to tavla2), not x5. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi