From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Mar 13 06:10:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 13 Mar 2003 14:10:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 84745 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 14:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2003 14:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 14:10:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tTPn-0002Hb-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:10:35 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tTPT-0002HH-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:10:15 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [65.246.141.36] (helo=mail.reutershealth.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tTPB-0002Gx-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:09:57 -0800 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (mail [65.246.141.36]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12594; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:06:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200303131406.JAA12594@mail.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:09:54 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Suggestions Sought: NORALUJV and jbovlaste To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:09:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030313044745.GS25165@digitalkingdom.org> from "Robin Lee Powell" at Mar 12, 2003 08:47:45 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 4461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: John Cowan Reply-To: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > > > fazyta'a annoy+talk > > > fanza+tavla: chatter: x1 = tavla1 (talk) = fanza 1 (pest), x2 = > > > tavla2 (talked to), x3 = tavla3 (talk subject), x4 = tavla4 (talk > > > language), x5 = fanza2 (annoyed) > OK, we're obviously talking about different standards. > > x1 is a chatterer who chatters at x2 about x3 in language x4 Oh, I understand. In that case, you want to use the stuff in the parens to generate this: x1 is a talk/pest with talked-to x2 with talk-subject x3 with talk-language x4 with annoyed x5 This is not totally smooth English, but it is a mere matter of copy-editing to make it so. Break the place structure at the commas, use regular expressions to extract the useful stuff, and assemble it according to the template "x1 is a ... with ... x2 with ... x3 with ..." etc. etc. It would be an easy hack to change the third word to "an" appropriately. > And, by the way, fanza2 is clearly x2 of fazyta'a (i.e. equal to > tavla2), not x5. Quite right. That sort of semantic error *has* to be corrected by a human being, of course. -- "Do I contradict myself? John Cowan Very well then, I contradict myself. jcowan@reutershealth.com I am large, I contain multitudes. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Walt Whitman, _Leaves of Grass_ http://www.reutershealth.com