From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Mar 13 15:45:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 13 Mar 2003 23:45:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25144 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 23:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2003 23:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 23:45:15 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tcNv-0005QH-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:45:15 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tcNn-0005Pr-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:45:07 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tcNf-0005Pf-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:45:00 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2DNqXCG057499 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:52:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h2DNqWbr057498 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:52:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:52:32 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: spofu skami Message-ID: <20030313235232.GA57351@allusion.net> References: <20030313183823.GH25165@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030313174255.034e0c60@pop.east.cox.net> <20030313232720.GO25165@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030313232720.GO25165@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 4513 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:27:20PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:52:12PM -0500, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > Bearing in mind that the word "nerve" long predates our current > > understanding of the processing in a neural system, nirna would NOT be > > limited to such a scientific definition. Lojban gismu are generally > > defined as broadly as possible (for Jordan - the "metaphor" cues are > > an attempt to force breadth of meaning - not polysemy). > >=20 > > I think that a nerve/nirna is merely a relaying component of an > > information system which transmits signals from one or more sources to > > one or more destinations (possibly with conditions based on the > > signals received). It is not even clear that the directionality > > implied by "source" and "destination" is necessary. > >=20 > > Under this broader definition, a transformer, a tunnel diode, and a > > mechanical relay are also nirna. >=20 > I'm fine with all that, but if that's the case, the definition needs to > be fixed, because it's got the phrase "body-part" in it, for crying out > loud. .ie > And again, cans with string, talking, telephone wires, etc, etc, all > fit. Yeah. What's with this overlap between nirna and cukta? --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+cRnADrrilS51AZ8RAtGvAJwMjq6RcmWD1kmX1qiNEbJGmajR8gCfRz3X ZIx7PqhQDBEAbSCpV1sojYA= =H2mL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP--