From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Sat Mar 22 10:43:40 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 22 Mar 2003 18:43:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 89668 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 18:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2003 18:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.74) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 18:43:39 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (213.3.158.174) by mail1.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.7.016) id 3E67449F001F9E2C; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:43:37 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01c2f0a2$c61183c0$ae9e03d5@oemcomputer> To: "Jorge Llambias" , "jboste" Subject: Alice proofreading Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 19:40:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke I've decided the best way for me to learn lojban is to read Alice. Although I'd like to nitpick the use of each LE+NU, I just can't be bothered, so here is a list of the mistakes I find. (I also can't be bothered to read the original, so I may not see some mistakes - or find some that aren't actually mistakes at all.) pamo'o Alice falls down a well: la alis farlu fo lo mutce condi jinto. A jinto is something that is a source of some liquid. It certainly isn't a vertical shaft. How about {rajytu'u} I don't know how to translate "cupboard", but I'm not impressed by "kabri tanxe" why does Alice say {*uo* mi na ba xanka sa'a li'o} I don't get what uo means. At first I thought she had reached the end of her fall, but that's not the case. After falling like this: {ba lonu farlu tai ti kei} shouldn't it be {tai la'edi'u}? {i zu'u le cabna na matrai li'o} what is {matrai} a typo for? just after there is an {i go'i} which I don't get enough for now, this is tougher than I thought, although I have managed to impress a few people (I've printed out the first chapter and I've been reading it during boring lectures - with little help from wordlists). -- http://ic.epfl.ch/~dyke e'osai ko sarji la lojban - www.lojban.org "That man is such an ignoramus, Father." [...] "Stand inside his soul and see the world through his eyes. You will feel the pain he feels because of his ignorance, and you will not laugh." -- Chaim Potok, "The Chosen"