From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Mar 24 16:13:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 25 Mar 2003 00:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 53954 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 00:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2003 00:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.67) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 00:13:12 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:13:12 -0800 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:13:11 GMT X-Originating-Email: [jjllambias@hotmail.com] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Newbie Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:13:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2003 00:13:12.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[529166A0:01C2F263] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la píer cusku di'e > > I propose {ze'e ba le fanmo be le munje}, which means "throughout > > all time towards the future, up to the end of the world". > >That should be {ze'epu} - {ze'eba} means "throughout all time *after*". {ze'epu} means from the mists of time past, untill the reference point. {ze'eba} from the reference point, untill the mists of future time. {ze'epu} certainly doesn't work here, because we want the interval that goes from the present towards the future. You may be thinking that the sumti tagged by {ze'eba} has to be the reference point. That does not hold for most tags, for example in {ze'e KOhA}, KOhA is the interval, not the origin. I hold that only PUs and FAhAs tag the origin, and only in their function as position markers. In their function after ZEhA, as direction markers, they should tag the end point (otherwise there is no other way to tag it, while we already have a way to tag the origin). mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail