From robin@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx Tue Feb 2 07:35:27 1999
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:35:27 +0200
From: Robin Turner <robin@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Subject: Re: rights

Aa7qb@aol.com wrote:

> From: Aa7qb@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/1/99 8:13:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cowan@locke.ccil.org writes:
>
> >
> > Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote:
> >
> > > The sense of English "right" that implies an
> > > innate entitlement is thus more akin to jinzi than zifre.
> >
> > Note that not all, and not even most, rights are innate even by
> > American legal theory. The right to take home the groceries arises
> > only after making payment for them!
> >
> Perhaps freedom is a better choice of words than 'right.' A number of years
> ago, I read an article (by Van Doran I believe) about the four freedoms which
> were the freedom of self-determination, the freedom of self-realization, the
> freedom of self-government, and the freedom of religion. I believe most
> Americans have come to accept these as rights.
>

To which Chimsky cynically added something like "the freedom to rob and exploit"
;-)

Robin