From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Apr 01 05:22:23 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 1 Apr 2003 13:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16036 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2003 13:22:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2003 13:22:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2003 13:22:21 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 190LiX-0002Py-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:22:21 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190LiK-0002Pf-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:22:08 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail0.epfl.ch ([128.178.50.57]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 190LiB-0002PW-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:21:59 -0800 Received: (qmail 29067 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2003 13:21:57 -0000 Received: from sicdec1.epfl.ch (128.178.50.33) by mail0.epfl.ch with SMTP; 1 Apr 2003 13:21:57 -0000 Received: (from apache@localhost) by sicdec1.epfl.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31DLv330918 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:21:57 +0200 Received: from 128.178.164.136 ( [128.178.164.136]) as user dyke@imap.epfl.ch by imapwww.epfl.ch with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:21:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1049203317.3e8992752c8f6@imapwww.epfl.ch> X-Imap-User: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:21:57 +0200 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Jbovlaste formatting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-archive-position: 4703 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch X-Originating-IP: 128.178.164.136 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out How do we go about making jbovlaste as unified as possible? And how do we "cooperate" on this cooperative quest? Take the entry barkla: http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/dict/barkla This was recorded from noralujvo (I expect) and then Robin tried to make it more sensible. 1) there is no point in removing klama2=bartu1 because this would give a synonym for the better barli'u so I wrote a new definition. 2) Robin got his k_2 and b_1 mixed up with k_3 and b_2, so his definition was not quite right. If this had been the only problem, should I put a comment (which apparently gets mailed to robin) or write my own definition with just the correct x_?'s 3) Do we want our lujvo to be defined: k1 goes out to k2=b1 which is outside of k3=b2 by route k4 with means of transport k5 or x1=k1 goes out to x2=k2=b1 etc. I thought we only put the x_?'s in when we had decided to reorder stuff. 4) Should all english verbs have a "to" in front (robin created "exit" and "to exit")? 5)how should exit the verb be separated from exit the noun? we currently have: exit in the sense of leave exit in the sense of an action and I was thinking of having either: exit; action exit; verb (how does this work when we don't have a convenient synonym?) mi'e greg mu'o