From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 16 06:26:04 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 16 Apr 2003 13:26:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 70939 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 13:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2003 13:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 13:26:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 195mvK-0002OI-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:26:02 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 195mue-0002Nx-00; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:25:20 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 195muT-0002MP-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:25:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B5E32202 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:24:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (neo.fen.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.97.69]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C67F32151 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:24:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3E9D5924.4070909@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:22:44 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: any References: <200304160720.27171.phma@webjockey.net> In-Reply-To: <200304160720.27171.phma@webjockey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 4797 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Pierre Abbat wrote: >I found a usage of "any" that sounds odd to me: >http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,6289939%255E25460,00.html >"The Information Ministry had long authorised any Iraqi map." >What he means, I think, is "le datni sefkamni ze'upu crutro *ro* rakso >tumcartu". > >phma > > It sounds odd to me too. What the writer seems to mean is that all Iraqi maps had to authorised before they could be published. "le datni sefkamni ze'upu crutro *ro* rakso tumcartu" implies that the Information Ministry authorised every single map that was made, which is unlikely, if not impossible (since "ro rakso tumcartu" includes not only maps of Iraq made by foreigners but also any map made by any Iraqi for any purpose; e.g. telling friends where the party is tonight). robin.tr -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin