From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sat Apr 19 13:58:04 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 19 Apr 2003 20:58:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 38173 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2003 20:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Apr 2003 20:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web20503.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.226.138) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2003 20:58:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20030419205803.86048.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.2.52] by web20503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Apr 2003 13:58:03 PDT Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 13:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] mu'ei To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <50096415-7274-11D7-A233-003065D4EC72@optushome.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jorge "Llambías" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la nitcion cusku di'e > the problem with possible worlds is that, while they are there to give > hypothetical scenarios a cardinality (and thereby a denotation), there > are only three sensible numbers for them: no; ro; and me'i. There is also {su'o} to go with that group: romu'ei: necessary nomu'ei: impossible su'omu'ei: possible me'imu'ei: not necessary But as John pointed out, the so'V series is also usable with mu'ei, giving something like: so'amu'ei: almost necessary so'emu'ei: most probable so'imu'ei: very likely so'omu'ei: somewhat likely so'umu'ei: barely possible And also: du'emu'ei: too likely mo'amu'ei: not likely enough raumu'ei: likely enough And of course: xomu'ei: how likely? > If and when the topic comes up on bpfk, I'd much > rather an alternative like expanding the definition of ka'e as sumti > tcita to encompass me'imu'ei, and na'eka'e na for romu'ei. Or something. {ka'e} is closest to {su'omu'ei}, something that is possible is something that happens in at least one possible world. {na'eka'e} is closest to {nomu'ei}, something that happens in no possible world is something impossible. {me'imu'ei} is something that does not happen in every possible world, thus it does not necessarily happen. It may even be something impossible. There is no CAhA corresponding to {romu'ei}, though one was proposed as an experimental cmavo. ({ba'ai}? I can't check on the wiki right now.) mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com